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What would cause me to be deleted? 

About November 7, 2009 I was in Ohio to visit my grandmother and pick up items from my mother that passed away in May 2009.  I could not log in... I would try every day and I could not get logged on... Strange, I had not received any notice there was a problem.  I emailed the email address for MPVA asking what happened... (Click to view) ........The reply did not come until Nov. 16 (Click to view)
I was confused but in the meantime, my grandmother came down with menginitis and was hospitalized. I had no access to a computer printer and hand wrote my application information to resubmit my dues on November 16 and sent a check to Harvey Bach's address he uses to collect dues. 

I heard nothing and could not log in... On November 30,  I sent a email to MPVA again asking what the status was  (click to view) and received no response. 
On, December 8, 2009, I still had not heard anything and sent another email  (click to view) .  It was very frustrating that a association and corporation doesn't answer a question.  I received the following response (click to view) 
I choose not to make a phone call to find out why my membership renewal was denied and feel it must be something that a board member does not want to be held accountable for later.  I still don't know what the problem was.....

On December 8, 2009, I received a email that included: "Hi Norm, Your membership is being denied and your check is being returned to you. Reason is to lengthy for an email, but I'd be glad to explain it to you over the phone if you'd like. Just give me a call."
It was bad enough I have to try repeatedly to find out what was wrong and now I'm supposed to call.  I'd rather have someone independent of both sites standing next to me if I have to talk to someone. 

Since March of 2009 I have made no posts on MPVA following a post I made about Don Zabinski.  Eddie Abboud had talked to Don while in the hospital and Don asked that information about him and a family member be posted on the veterans site.  Eddie did not have access to MPVA to post and asked me to.  I did the post exactly as Eddie asked and what Don wanted.  The next day the post had been deleted and no one had emailed me or called me to tell me why or that they had done it.  I had to email a board member and ask why.  I was told that I had been in violation of HIPPA (medical release of information - look it up on google), which was wrong and that veterans did not need to know certain details.  I won't get into the exchange of emails on this because I'd rather let the whole matter rest.  That is the only reason why I think I was deleted from THIS site. 

The only other reason I can think of is because I help run the "other site", was back in March 2009, one person that registered on www.mpd-vets.org was found to have other computers/persons using the username and password.  The persons access was deleted and not by me.  This had nothing to do with MPVA, however, I received a email that "we" had treated the person unjustifiably).  I tried to explain this but the board member told me "Who cares what website see visits or doesn't visit?" and "As for our protecting access to our site compared to yours ... ours is a pay to join and view Association .. We check IP's to make sure folks aren't giving out their Password  so others can view for free without Registering and paying their dues" ... .  HOWEVER, if you do it on MPVA's web site, you violate the established and printed web standards:  Quoted from the MPVA Website Standards :

I am not sure if this had anything to do with MY MPVA membership being cancelled because it had nothing to do with THAT site. It's just a thought of why was my membership cancelled.

As far as I know, I have done nothing deterimental to MPVA's web site.  Maybe it's because I help with another site and there is still that friction between the two. 
Here is a quote from a MPVA board member on a email to me:
"There's currently only two people that are denied access to the MPVA site (after paying their dues of course),  but you can be sure any others will get the opportunity to offer their side of the story before they get removed from the site and their $15.00 dues returned to them".
Except if you are me... I had to keep sending emails asking what happened to my membership. 

I have no regrets about anything I have done and as the MPVA is being run now, I have no desire to try to rejoin.  If you take a look at the membership list, scroll down and see how many people are not really involved in being on the web site to exchange information, which doesn't mean it is wrong. Some you never see at reunions or posting and probably just keep sending in their dollars to MPVA and get the newsletters for updates.  The one thing good about MPVA was the scholarships, it was a good way to show good faith in the funds that have been collected from dues of over 800 people annually.  I had hoped to let my grandchildren apply but they won't be able to now.   Paid members of the corporation have no votes or say in expenditures.  One example is the purchase and restoration of a car that is similar to a Miami Police Car with a specific car number on it.  I wonder if anyone has done a registration and title check to see who actually owns the car and what would happen to it if MPVA would close shop one day. 
I am not trying to divide any group of veterans by these pages and posts...only putting out some facts without personal relationships influencing decisions.

I am still a Miami Police Veteran and proud of it, despite my membership being terminated in November 2009.

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